Thursday, December 25, 2014

Jane Scott 1857 - 1899

Jane's father, Charles Scott was Irish and born about 1833 to John Scott and Catherine Cooper.  Charles was a lapper (one who cleans cotton fibers before sheets fed into carding machines).  Some family members say he was also a teacher. Charles died in 1888 from apoplexy.

Jane's mother, Margaret Rattray was born  about 1832 in Forfar, Angus, Scotland.  Margaret's parents John Murray Rattray and Jane or Jean Henderson had 8 children including Margaret.  Margaret, taught adults to read and write in her own home.  Margaret died from breast cancer in 1896. Her daughter Jane was the informant.

Charles Scott and Margaret Rattray's children:
1.  Jane Scott May 20, 1857  m Robert Stewart
2.  Arthur Hardie Scott April 16, 1860 m. Mary Stephen
3.  John Rattray Scott  June 24, 1861, died 1871
4.  Ann Ogilvie Scott November 18, 1862, died 1862
5.  Margaret Brodie Scott  March 30, 1864, died 1870
6.  Catherine Scott  June 10, 1865
7.  William Scott  January 8, 1867
8.  Agnes Fettes Scott March 5, 1869 
9.  David McDonald Scott  February 10, 1871
10.  Joseph Scott  July
26, 1872 
11.  James Charles Haste Scott  Sept 2, 1873

Jane's maternal grandfather or Margaret's father, John Rattray, born between 1793 and 1796, fought in the Napoleonic Wars and received a "Chelsea pension." 
Eligible ex-soldiers who could not be housed in the Hospital were termed out-pensioners, receiving their pension from the Royal Hospital but living outside it.
By 1815 there were 36,757 Chelsea pensioners.

Jane's brother, Arthur Hardie Scott, was a famous sea captain who traveled all over the world and fathered a large family. 

Jane was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.  She married Robert Stewart, had two children.  John and Margaret.  Jane died of cancer of the uterus 3 years, in the 1899 at 41 Lyon Street with James Scott, her brother as informant.   

Son, John Young Burridge Scott


Clarence Gardiner, Robert's nephew: "Robert Stewart, the youngest brother of William, came and lived here. (USA)  He worked in smelters.  He died in Anaconda or Butte, Montana of lead poisoning."

Sources: 

1841 census Jane’s mother Margaret Rattray is 9 years old.  They are living on Crofts Lane in Dundee.

Father John Rattray (Jane's grandfather) 45, lapper (one who cleans cotton fibers before sheets fed into carding machines)
Jane Rattray 40
David Rattray 15
James Rattray 13
George Rattray 11
Margaret Rattray 9 (Jane's mother)
Jane Rattray 7
Peter Rattray 5
Janet Rattray 2

1855 3 August -  Jane’s mother Margaret Rattray and father Charles Scott marry in Dundee.

1857 20 May - Jane is born at 12:15 pm at No 5 Hawkhill, Dundee.

1857  19 Nov Robert Stewart was born at 2:00, on Princess Street at the home of his brother John.  The family lives at 11 Crescent Street, Dundee
(1.2 miles away from Jane)

1861  Charles Scott, 28 is a Jute Weaver living at Shep Loan, Thomson Land.

Charles 28
Margaret 28
Jane Scott 3
Arthur Scott 1

1862 Ann Ogilvie Scott is born. She dies 10 months later in a crib death.  Her father discovers the body.

1871 Charles, 38 is living in St. Peter on 62 Taylors Land and is a lapper (one who cleans cotton fibres before sheets fed into carding machines)

Charles Scott 38
Margaret Scott 38
Jane Scott 13
Catherine Scott 6
Agnes Scott 2
David Scott 7 weeks

1878 April: At St Pauls Church, Dundee.  After Banns according to the forms of the Scottish Episcopal Church, Robert Stewart, Valet, Bachelor, 20, 186 Blackness Road, Son of Robert Stewart, Wood Carter (deceased), and Margaret Stewart MS Stewart, married Jane Scott, Power Loom Weaver, Spinster, 20, 186 Blackness Road.  Daughter of Charles Scott, Cloth Inspector, and Margaret Scott MS Rattray.  Witnesses: E. Skinner, Euphemia Sutherland (#73, 3rd Dist, Dundee).

1879  Sep 22  Jean Scott Stewart, born 20 May 1857, Dundee, was baptized, Dundee Branch, LDS Church, by Elder A. Watson, confirmed the same day by Elder A. Laird (FHL104150).

1881 census. Margaret Scott's family is living at St. Peter parish, 186 Blackness Rd., Dundee

Charles 48
Margaret 48
Arthur H Scott 20
Agnes Scott 12
David Scott 10
James Scott 7

1881 16 September 3 pm Robert and Jane Scott Stewart have a child at St. Peter parish, Blackness Road Dundee.  He is named John Young Burridge Stewart.  Robert is a hotel waiter.  Their marriage is acknowledged to be April.  The birth is recorded September 24.

1888  Charles Scott, lapper dies August 6th, 3 am at Murrygale, Dundee of apoplexy and seizures 13 days,  He is 56.  His deceased father is John Scott, cloth lapper and mother Catherine Scott, Ms Cooper, deceased.  The informant is Jane Scott, 31 Charles Street.  This is recorded August 6th 1888.
Jane living at 38 Charles Street, Dundee.

1891 census

Margaret Scott 59
Jane Scott 32 Theater attendant
Agnes Scott 22  Weaver
Jos Scott 17   Grocer
John Stewart 9 grandson  Scholar
Margaret Stewart 8 granddaughter Scholar (this is the only proof we have of Margaret’s existence.)

1895 Margaret Scott is renting at 13 North Ellen Street from William Bagne who lives at 57 High Street.

1896 Margaret Scott, widow of Charles Scott, jute warehouseman dies March 7 at 6 h 10m pm at 11 North Ellen Street, Dundee.  She is 63 years old.  Her father was John Murray Rattray, army pensioner deceased and Jane Trttray, Ms Henderson, deceased.  The cause of death is cancer of the breast 2 years, Dr. Steele Moon.  Jeanie Stewart, daughter is present.  This is recorded march 9th in Dundee.

1899 Jane Stewart, widow of Robert Bruage Stewart, Hotel Waiter at 13 North Ellen Street 9 h 40 min pm on January 3 1899.  She is 40 years old.  Her father is Charles Scott, shoemaker jur, (Charles must have begun a new career) deceased and Margaret Scott Ms Rattray.  She dies of cancer of the uterus 3 years certified by George Broson.  The informant is James Scott, brother, (he is 25 years old) 4 Lyon Street.  This is registered January 4th in Dundee. 

Note: John Young Burrage Stewart was 18 when his mother died. 

1906 John J. B Stewart, carpenter, immigrates  November to Quebec City Quebec, Canada.  He is 25 and born in 1881 in Scotland.  The ship is the Sicilian. 

Research:

1841 census: Jane's father:


Name: Charles Scott
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Cherry Field
Parish Number: 282
Household Members:
Name Age
John Scott 25
Cathrine Scott 23
Mary Scott 9
Charles Scott 7
Cathrine Scott 5
James Scott 2


1841 census: Jane's mother:


Name: Margaret Rattray
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Female
Where born: Angus, Scotland
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Crofts Lane
Parish Number: 282
Household Members:
Name Age
John Rattray 45
Jane Rattray 40
David Rattray 15
James Rattray 13
George Rattray 11
Margaret Rattray 9
Jane Rattray 7
Peter Rattray 5
Janet Rattray 2



1855 Jane's Father's Marriage:
Name: Charles Scott
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 3 Aug 1855
Marriage Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
Spouse: Margaret Rattray
FHL Film Number: 6035516

1857  Jane Scott was born 20 May 1857 at 12:15 p.m. at No. 5 Hawkhill, Dundee, Daughter of Charles Scott, lapper, and Margaret Scott MS Rattray, Informant: Charles Scott, father, not present (#655 , 2nd Dist, Dundee, FHL280429).

1857 19 Nov 1857     Robert Stewart was born 19 Nov 1857, at 2:00 p.m., son of Robert Stewart, labourer, and Elizabeth [Betty] Stewart, at Princes Street, Dundee. Home at 11 Crescent Street.  Informant: Robert Stewart, father, not present. (#1592 1st Dist, Dundee, FHL280428).

Robert was born at his brother John's home on Princess Street.

Robert and Elizabeth lived 1.2 miles from each other, 23 minutes walking distance:
Note: Blackness Road where she eventually lives, dead ends into Hawkhill Street. 




1861 census: Jane is 3


Name: Charles Scott
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret Scott
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 282/2
Registration district: Dundee Second District
Civil Parish: Liff and Benvie
County: Angus
Address: Shep Loan (thomson Land)
Occupation: Jute Weaver
ED: 27
Household schedule number: 47
LINE: 12
Roll: CSSCT1861_41
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Scott 28
Margaret Scott 28
Jane Scott 3
Arthur Scott 1















1862: Jane was 5 when her father discovered her sister "dead in bed."




 1864 Margaret Brodie Scott is born:















 









1871 February 21, John Rattray dies from typhoid, or a bacterial disease spread through contaminated food and water or close contact.




1871 census: Jane was 13:


Name: Charles Scott
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret Scott
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/1
Registration district: St Peter
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 62 Taylors Lane
Occupation: Lapper
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 150
LINE: 13
Roll: CSSCT1871_49
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Scott 38
Margaret Scott 38
Jane Scott 13
Catherine Scott 6
Agnes Scott 2
David Scott 7 Weeks


Apr 1878      At St Pauls Church, Dundee.  After Banns according to the forms of the Scottish Episcopal Church, Robert Stewart, Valet, Bachelor, 20, 186 Blackness Road, Son of Robert Stewart, Wood Carter (deceased), and Margaret Stewart MS Stewart, married Jane Scott, Power Loom Weaver, Spinster, 20, 186 Blackness Road.  Daughter of Charles Scott, Cloth Inspector, and Margaret Scott MS Rattray.  Witnesses: E. Skinner, Euphemia Sutherland (#73, 3rd Dist, Dundee).


22 Sep 1879      Jean Scott Stewart, born 20 May 1857, Dundee, was baptized, Dundee Branch, LDS Church, by Elder A. Watson, confirmed the same day by Elder A. Laird (FHL104150).

1881 census: Jane's maternal grandparents:


Name: Margaret Rattray Or Scott
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Charles Scott
Gender: Female
Where born: Forfar, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/1
Registration district: St Peter
Civil Parish: St Peter
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 186 Blackness Rd.
ED: 26
Household schedule number: 49
LINE: 9
Roll: cssct1881_81
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Scott 48
Margaret Rattray Or Scott 48
Arthur H Scott 20
Agnes Scott 12
David Scott 10
James Scott 7

1881 census: Name: Margaret Rattray Or Scott Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 
Relationship: Wife Spouse's 
name : Charles Scott Gender: Female Where born: Forfar, Forfarshire 
Registration Number: 282/1 
Registration district: St Peter Civil Parish: St Peter Town: Dundee County: 
Angus Address: 186 Blackness Rd. 
ED: 26 Household schedule number: 49 LINE: 9 Roll: cssct1881_81

1881 census: (taken April 3, 1881)



Name: Robert Stewart
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane Stewart
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/1
Registration district: St Peter
Civil Parish: St Peter
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Annfield House
Occupation: Calender Worker
ED: 26
Household schedule number: 174
LINE: 19
Roll: cssct1881_81
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Stewart 23
Jane Stewart 23

Note: CALENDER WORKER - operated a machine which pressed using two large rollers (calender) used to press and finish fabrics or paper

1881 Jane and Robert have a son: September 16, birth of their son.


Name: John Young Burridge Stewart
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 16 Sep 1881
Birth Place: St. Peter, Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Father: Robert Stewart
Mother: Jane Scott Stewart
FHL Film Number: 232638
Reference ID: v 282-1 p 247

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01847-5 , System Origin: Scotland-EASy , GS Film number: 232638 , Reference ID: v 282-1 p 247 
Note: This birth certificate in 1881 notes Robert's occupation as hotel waiter and Jane's death certificate notes the same thing but says Robert is deceased. Robert died sometime between 1881 and 1899.  Robert is not noted in the 1891 census.  Either he is out of town or deceased by 1891.






1888 Jane's father dies from apoplexy and seizures


Apoplexy also includes hemorrhaging with the gland and accompanying neurological problems such as confusion, headache, and impairment of consciousness.

The word apoplexy may have been used to refer to the symptom of sudden loss of consciousness immediately preceding death.

Robert died sometime between 1883 and 1891

Here are possibilities:



From 1891 to 1899 family live at 13 N Ellen Street, Dundee:



1891 census:


Name: Margt Scott
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Forfarre
Registration Number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 13 N Ellen St
ED: 44
Household schedule number: 9
LINE: 16
Roll: CSSCT1891_96
Household Members:
Name Age
Margt Scott 59
Jane Scott 32
Agnes Scott 22
Jos Scott 17
John Scott 9
Margt Scott 8
This census in 1891  shows that Jane is already a widow.  Her mother is also a widow.   This means that Robert died between 1883 and early 1891.




1895 Valuation Rolls, like rental lists:






 Jane Stewart, fourth down








127 High Street, Dundee




 Jane Stewart top row




 Note: Jane's mother, Margaret, is living in the same place Jane will die, four years later:  13 Ellen Street, Dundee. Jane is living at 127 High street 1 up. 




Margaret Scott's death: Jane calls herself Jeanie Stewart



1899 Scotland deaths: Her brother James is present at her death. She died at 41 Lyon Street.



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The following is research and needs further work:

1906 immigration to Canada:
Name: John J B Stewart
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: Nov 1906
Event Place: Quebec City, Quebec, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Year (Estimated): 1881
Birthplace: Scotland
Ship Name: Sicilian






1930 census





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1940 census







Research: January 2014



Hi Kent

Thanks very much for getting in touch. I must admit that I’ve only really tinkered with Ancestry rather than getting properly into the detail – yet!

I do have some family notes from my mother that she got originally from a great aunt and your heads up on Charles Scott being Irish makes sense. I think I was thrown by later census reports where he claims to be from Dundee but the 1841 Census makes sense as my mother’s notes tell me he lived in Cherryfield. He did become apparently a teacher and I wonder if this encouraged him to ‘forget’ his Irish roots. Certainly the notes suggest that his wife, Margaret, taught adults to read and write in her own home. A sight of her death certificate would be very kind.

My great grandfather was Arthur Hardie Scott so I have some good anecdotal info on him. One of the first ships on which he sailed was the Dunbritton, later becoming First Mate on the Olivebank, then Sea Captain of the Gerard C Toby. He moved to the USA in 1902 and his regular sea routes were from San Francisco to Hawaii and Alaska. He got his Inspector Licence to Masters on 18/10/1905 and this meant he could take his children on board with him – many great stories! He met both Jack London and Robert Louis Stevenson, who both sailed with him and wrote about him.

All the best

Scott


Thanks Kent

Arthur Hardie Scott was married to Mary Smith Stephen, daughter of James Stephen and Mary Miller Burnett. She was born in Brechin on 27th February 1866 and they were married on the 31st January 1888 in St Paul’s Episcopal Church in Dundee. They had one son, Jim (1890 to 1933), and seven daughters – Mary (1891 to 1983), Margaret (Daisy) (1894 to 1965), Dora (1896, died in childhood), Olive (1899 to 1982), Etta (1901 to 1991), Martha (1904 to 1954) and Alma (1907 to 1968). Mary moved with Arthur to California in 1902, returned to Scotland in 1910 as a widow, and returned to the USA in 1924 after the death of her mother.  She died in Billings, Montana on 22nd June 1950.

All the best

Scott


From: "vicki murray" <queenvictoria18@hotmail.com>
Subject: [SCOTT] SCOTT/RATTRAY
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:15:02 +1300
I have birth details for the following but no marriage or death details.
Does anyone recognise these persons.There are some descendents in New
Zealand and USA that I am aware of.

Margaret Rattray married Charles Scott 3 Aug 1855, Dundee, Angus, Scotland.
Charles and Margaret had the following children;
Jane Scott b. 20 May 1857 Dundee
Arthur Hardie Scott b. 16 April 1860 Dundee
John Rattray Scott b. 24 June 1861 Dundee
Ann Ogilvie Scott b.18 Nov 1862 Dundee
Margaret Brodie Scott b. 30 Mar 1864 Dundee
Catherine Scott b. 10 June 1865 Dundee
William Scott b. 8 Jan 1867 Dundee
Agnes Fettes Scott b. 5 Mar 1869 Dundee
David McDonald Scott b. 10 Feb 1871 Dundee
Joseph Scott b. 26 Jul 1872 Dundee

James Charles Haste Scott b. 2 Sep 1873 Dundee


Would like to be in contact with anyone who has information on these people.  I have more info on Arthur Hardie Scott but not his death details.

Thanking you
Vicki
New Zealand

Until next time.....